Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:29:03 +0100 From: Paul Barclay Subject: [O] NetRep Reply 560 ======================================================================= NetRep Reply number 560 to the Magic: the Gathering List ======================================================================= This reply covers the digests: MTG-L Digest - 20 Jul 2000 (#2000-232) MTG-L Digest - 20 Jul 2000 to 21 Jul 2000 - Special issue (#2000-233) MTG-L Digest - 21 Jul 2000 (#2000-234) MTG-L Digest - 21 Jul 2000 to 22 Jul 2000 (#2000-235) MTG-L Digest - 22 Jul 2000 to 23 Jul 2000 (#2000-236) MTG-L Digest - 23 Jul 2000 to 24 Jul 2000 (#2000-237) Older replies may be found at: http://www.second-hand.demon.co.uk ftp://ftp.magic.asuka.net http://www.yavapaiopen.com http://www.en.magic.asuka.net http://www.wizards.com/dci/judge/judgelistarchive.asp LONG ANSWERS: ======================================================================= [Britt Hansen, asking some questions] >Russell controls a Celestial Dawn. He then plays a Contamination. What >is his situation? >The answer is "All his lands are Plains. When tapped for mana, they will >produce W". Why? Celestial Dawn edits the mana symbols on Contamination too. >Russell controls only 8 Forests, 3 Swamps, and 3 Mountains. In this >order he plays a Darkest Hour, Bad Moon, Natural Affinity, Fervor, and >then another Forest. He declares a legal attack with every applicable >creature. What is the maximum damage he can deal? >The correct answer is, according to the page, 15. But that can't be >right can it? The lands are all 2/2 creatures with haste, right? It's right. Darkest Hour costs 1, Bad Moon costs 2, Affinity costs 3, Fervor costs 3, leaving 5 lands untapped as 3/3 black creatures. The last land isn't a creature. >Michelle starts her first main phase with only an untapped Karplusan >Forest in play and a hand of exactly four of the same card. Her library >contains eight Forests. Michelle is holding four Land Grant. How many of >them can she play this turn? >Answer: 4. What am I missing? Play 1st via ACC, get forest, play forest, >play 2nd via ACC, play third by tapping KF and forest...how do you play >the 4th? Choose not to get a land once. ----- [Beta, asking about Chains of Mephistopheles] >When I read about the whole Chains of Mephistopheles debate, I tried to >figure out a combo to use it. What annoyed me was the fact that the >first card drawn during the turn was not affected from Chains. This is "thankful", not "annoying" when you're playing with/against the Chains. >But then I looked at another discard-related card: Anvil of Bogardan. >Now please tell me whether this combo works. If it does, I want to know >if it was used before. It works - it's a good way of keeping people's hands empty (they can still play a Disenchant if they draw it first card). ----- [Steve Wollkind, asking about "as though"] >> Will a Palinchron brought into play via Temporal Aperture allow the >> player to untap lands? > >Now, the answer that the test gives is No, because the card wasn't played >from your hand. I'm confused because of the definition of "as though" >given in the rule book. The glossary entry for "as though" means that if you look back in time, you don't see it as happening. So, when Palinchron's ability sees if it will trigger, it finds that it wasn't actually played from your hand. ----- [David Zhou, asking about Pariah] >When 1 of my creature with a Pariah and Treacherous Link on himself is >being targeted of a Shock, where will the damage end up??? On the creature (if you Shocked the player, the damage would end up on the player). ----- [Mat Brown, talking about the card set FAQs] >Paul, along with the new card review process that has been put into place, >will there also be an FAQ review process? Once Bethmo gets replaced, the FAQ writing will be back to normal. For Invasion, I'm sure Dave and I will chip into the FAQ to make sure it contains everything it needs. ----- [Mat Brown, having a near miss with a bad joke] >> > If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck; >> > I'll call it a duck. >> >> Of course, if it's just a cleverly constructed moving 3D image of a >> duck, then you'd have to call it a > >Okay, now I'm curious. What would you have to call it? Don't push me**. ----- [Mat Brown, asking about Brutal Suppression] >If we follow this reasoning, that costs are modified on the stack, then the >costs of mana abilities are never changed. If you have a Conspiracy in play >naming Rebels, and a Brutal Suppression, and a Llanowar Elf, do you need to >sacrifice a land to play the Llanowar Elf's activated ability? Yes (based on the upcoming text of Brutal Suppression). This will be clearer when the new text comes out. >Before it did, someone suggested that >it was a rules modification. "418.1. A continuous effect modifies permanents >or the rules of the game for a fixed or indefinite period." This would not cover all the cases. Continuous effects can modify all sorts of other things, such as spells on the stack. ----- [Jason Brown, asking about Temporal Aperture] >If a Gaea's Blessing is played via Temporal Aperture, regardless of what it >targets, when it resolves it goes from the library to the graveyard, and the >owner shuffles his or her graveyard into the library, correct? No. It goes from the Stack to the graveyard, because as soon as it is played it moves from the Library to the Stack. ----- [Steve Lord, asking about Library of Lat-Nam] >Due to a quesition on .strategy, we have a problem with Library of >Lat-Nam as well (I know it's not as big a problem, but it's still >annoying). You might as well choose, instead of your opponent -- after >all, if your opponent makes the 'wrong' choice of mode, you refuse to >pay. Announce it again. Repeat until your opponent gets frustrated or >the judge smacks you for stalling. If you did this in a tournament, I'd disqualify you for stalling. If you did this in casual play, I'd drink your pint whilst you faffed about. ----- [Rob Allertson, asking about Broken Fall] >So, correct me if I'm wrong, but due to the nature of Broken Fall's >activated ability, this enchantment can never be disenchanted as long as >there is a creature in play to target for the activation of broken >fall's ability, right? That's correct - similar to Attunement. >Also, is there ever a case where the caster of the disenchant would get >to choose a different target? No, never. Once a target is chosen, it doesn't change unless something like Misdirection forces it to change. ----- [Tod Tinlin, asking about Parallax Wave] >What happens if I use a Devout Witness's ability on the Parallax Wave in >reponse to the Wave's use on it or another creature? The Wave leaves play, then the Wave's ability does nothing because the Wave says it has to be in play to do anything to the creature. ----- [Steve Lord, asking about a card idea] >Overkill >1RB >Sorcery >Destroy target creature. Overkill deals 20 damage to that creature. >"I think it's dead now." > >[And no, this would never be printed; too easily abusable with a >Treacherous Link :] Actually, it's not too abuseable. The damage wouldn't normally be dealt, as the creature would be in the graveyard before it would be dealt. So, Treacherous Link has nothing to replace. Of course, there are a whole host of reasons why it wouldn't be printed. ----- [Steve Lord, asking the time] >> MTG-L FAQ, posted on: 24/07/00 (I think) >> > >Long day, Paul? :) Just a bit. And it was 25/07/00, by 25 minutes. Paul. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Paul Barclay -- paul@second-hand.demon.co.uk -- Phone: 07939 081819 - - DCI Level 3 judge -- **It's a holoduck, of course - I did warn you. - - Official MTG-L Network Representative for Wizards of the Coast, Inc -