Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:04:29 +0100 From: Paul Barclay Subject: [O] NetRep Reply 552 ======================================================================= NetRep Reply number 552 to the Magic: the Gathering List ======================================================================= This reply covers the digests: MTG-L Digest - 20 Jun 2000 (#2000-190) MTG-L Digest - 20 Jun 2000 to 21 Jun 2000 (#2000-191) MTG-L Digest - 21 Jun 2000 to 22 Jun 2000 (#2000-192) MTG-L Digest - 22 Jun 2000 to 23 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-193) Older replies may be found at: http://www.second-hand.demon.co.uk ftp://ftp.magic.asuka.net http://www.yavapaiopen.com http://www.en.magic.asuka.net http://www.wizards.com/dci/judge/judgelistarchive.asp (note the new Yavapai Open address) FOLLOWUP TO PREVIOUS REPLIES: ======================================================================= *PANTS* Of course, Recurring Nightmare was banned in Standard, not in Extended, and is still legal in Extended. Well, looks like the jetlag is still here. SHORT ANSWERS: ======================================================================= ** Elephant Resurgence + Brand gives you two massive Elephants. ** It you put a token creature into play, it is coming into play. ** Homelands commons draft is a great format. LONG ANSWERS: ======================================================================= [Johan Sonck, asking about Lodestone Bauble] >Something I'd like to make sure about: can a Lodestone Bauble's >ability be used choosing 0 targets? Or does it need at least one >target to succesfully resolve? "Up to four" means your choice of 0, 1, 2, 3 and 4. ----- [Ed Phillips, asking some questions] >Can you make the Fog Elemental immune to it's own "kill me at the end of >combat" effect by giving it protection from blue? No. This isn't covered by Protection. >Can you use something like Fling on a Fog Elemental, after combat damage >has been dealt, but before he has to be sac'd? Yes. >I have 3 life, and my opponent has 3 life. We both have only a Lightning >Bolt our hand. He cast the bolt, I respond and cast my bolt... I win, >right? Yes. ----- [Kevin Jay, asking about Academy Rector] >I had the occasion recently to find myself on the receiving end of 16 5/5 >squirrels. One of the three creatures that would be blocking on my side was >an Academy Rector. Since I had a Worship in my deck, my question is whether >or not I could just block with the Rector and be able to get the Worship out >of my deck and into play in time to save me from dying. No, you can't. You'll die at the same time as the Rector does, so the Rector's triggered ability will never even get onto the Stack. ----- [Bjarke Roune, asking about abilities] >When reading a card, I'm having a hard time differentiation between what >is a cost, and what is an effect. Also, I have some questions about the >timing of paying costs. If it's before the colon, it's a cost. Otherwise, it's not (well, not normally, anyway). >Tap, 1: This creature gets +1/+1. >If this artifact creature is tapped, it can attack as if it was not. > >If that card is tapped with an Icy Manipulator, can it attack, or is >that part of the activated ability? (if the sentences were the other way >around, the answer would of course be obvious) It's not part of the activated ability as you wrote it - a different paragraph means a different ability. >Isn't that a bit unsafe? I mean, what if the text of the first ability >by pure chance happens to stop at the right margin of the card... *Look* at the cards (and read the rulebook, too). If you're attempting such an ambitious project, you need to know all this stuff before you can start planning it. >When I play a card from my hand and put it on the stack, is the cost of >doing that then only the manacost printed on the card in the upper right >corner, or can there be additional costs that I have to pay before the >card even resolves? There can be additional costs. They all say "as you play..." or similar. >When do I choose the target for a Disenchant? On announcement, of course. > Are there cards where I >must choose targets at other times than the time that is the answer to >the previous question? Yes. Misdirection is an example (although this isn't choosing a target for the spell, it's choosing a new target for an already targeted spell). > If yes, how do I recognise the time targets must >be chosen? If a card does not involve choosing targets, but instead >something like color or some such, is the answers to the previous 2 >questions still the same? No. Just the opposite - no cards force you to make such choices on announcement. ----- [Greg Janson, asking about Search for Survivors and drawing] >My problem here is with the phrase "an opponent". To my knowledge this is >the first time a card has used this phrase in conjunction with a random >selection. No, there was Cursed Scroll. Plus, cards like Hymn to Tourach do the same thing. >If I have an effect that triggers at "beginning of draw step", can I choose >to stack that effect and my normal draw in any order? Or does my normal draw >always go on the stack first? Any order. ----- [Glenn, asking about Chimeric Idol] >I understand that the Chimeric Idol can be turned into a creature when you have >already tapped all of your lands. >However, I am teaching someone else to play, and she asked why. >Having had a look through the Comprehensive Rules, I have not been able to find >specific justification. >Anyone able to give me a rule number, or numbers, so that I can maybe explain >this interaction a little more clearly? It's all about costs and effects. Tapping the land is an effect, so when the ability resolves, all your lands become tapped. You don't have to control untapped lands to play the ability (it doesn't say so), and they don't have to be untapped for it to resolve (ditto). ----- [Charles Bienvenue, asking the same question] >The kid activated a TradeWind Rider to unsummon my Khabal Ghoul so i cast >terror on the tradewind .... he said the effect of the tradewind cannot be >cancel by a terror He's correct. > ... but i always play like this ... its always the last >effect play who have the priority ... so in this situation the terror is the >last play spell and the tradewind id destroy ... > >Otherwise with this new rules Icy Manipulator lost their reason to exist .... >who cannot tap to prevent ability but even if you tap a card they can use is >ability before being tapped .... They _can_ use the ability. This is not a new rule. This rule has existed since the start of the game. >Other Question ... is the "NEW" rules are the same with unsummon ability ex: i >use Sword of the ages ans i sacrifice 3 Mahamoti .... if my opponent cast >shatter nothing will be cancel .... and if my opponent unsummon sacrified >creature what happen ??? The Sword removes itself and the creatures from the game when its ability is played. There's no chance to even play the Shatter on it in this case. ----- [Robbert Boer, asking about Extended] >I've got a question on an extended combo of which I'm not sure if it's >legal. >Glyph of Destruction: Instant -> Target wall gets +10/+0 when blocking This isn't legal in Extended. Try Type 1.5. >My opponent attacks, I block with a wall, I play the Glyph and directly >after that the Fling. This is legal (let the Glyph resolve before playing the Fling). ----- [JW Graves, asking about Disenchant] >Question? If you disenchant a Necropotence in response to him casting it can >he still set the cards aside? You can't do this - the Necro isn't in play until it resolves. If you wait, then of course he can use the ability in response, and will get the cards normally at the end of the turn. ----- [David Stroud, asking about Overburden] >Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that some of the worst wording of all >time? Last time I checked, players don't put creatures into play unless >prompted to do so by Hunted Wumpus for Show and Tell. Any time a creature card is put into play, one player is putting it into play. That player is the controller of the creature spell, or the person a spell or ability tells to do the putting into play. >Just as a 'furthermore,' assume for a moment that this wording was correct. > I Flicker my opponent's creature. Who returns the land? You do. ----- [Brenton Cumberpatch, asking about alternative costs] >Can I fizzle the alternative casting cost on the Avatars in response to >the announcement of casting the Avatar? No. There's absolutely no way to do this (and no cunning exceptions to this ruling, either). Paul. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Paul Barclay -- paul@second-hand.demon.co.uk -- Phone: 07939 081819 - - DCI Level 3 judge ---- http://www.second-hand.demon.co.uk/index.htm - - Official MTG-L Network Representative for Wizards of the Coast, Inc -