Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 23:18:56 +0100 From: Paul Barclay Subject: [O] NetRep Reply 531 ======================================================================= NetRep Reply number 531 to the Magic: the Gathering List ======================================================================= This reply covers the digests: MTG-L Digest - 3 Apr 2000 to 4 Apr 2000 - Special issue (#2000-101) MTG-L Digest - 4 Apr 2000 (#2000-102) MTG-L Digest - 4 Apr 2000 to 5 Apr 2000 (#2000-103) MTG-L Digest - 5 Apr 2000 to 6 Apr 2000 (#2000-104) MTG-L Digest - 6 Apr 2000 to 7 Apr 2000 (#2000-105) Older replies may be found at: http://www.second-hand.demon.co.uk ftp://ftp.magic.asuka.net http://yavapai.ccgnews.com http://www.en.magic.asuka.net http://www.wizards.com/dci/judge/judgelistarchive.asp SHORT ANSWERS: ======================================================================= ** You can play Wizard Mentor's ability targeting itself. This will return it to your hand. ** If you play Rancor on your animated Treetop Village, the Rancor will go to the graveyard when the Village de-animates at the end of the turn. It will then come back to your hand, as normal. ** If you Soul Scuplt a Goblin, you can't sacrifice it to a Goblin Grenade, as it no longer has the subtype "Goblin". See the April Rulings for more information on this subject. ** Lands don't gain a creature type when animated unless whatever animates them says "of creature type X" or similar. ** For Lin Sivvi, the order of your Library matters. The order of your graveyard does not (you can put any Rebel in your graveyard on the bottom of your library). LONG ANSWERS: ======================================================================= [Druid, asking about Parallax Wave and multiplayer] >the new question is if I remove a permanent with a parallax, what will >happen with the enchantments on that permanent? They're put into the graveyard as a state-based effect, just like if you killed the creature. >Some cards (permanents) used choose target opponent when ~this comes >into play in the past, and the oracle now says nothing like that. >The cards: Underworld Dreams, Powerleech, Black Vise, Gaea's Avanger: >The question: in multiplayer games how these cards work? (affect all of my >opponents or still I have to choose one of them) They affect all your opponents (other than Black Vise, which is worded so that you choose one opponent as it comes into play). ----- [Bob Terrell, asking about animating lands] >1) Cast Animate Land on an animated Faerie Conclave. Is it now a 3/3 flier? Yes. The Animate Land turns it into a 3/3 land creature, but doesn't remove any of its abilities. >2) Animate said Conclave (again, or after the Animate Land). Is it now a 2/1 flier? Yes, that's correct. >3) Crusade is in play. Animate Forbidding Watchtower. 1/5 or 2/6? 2/6. >4) Crusade in play. Animate Watchtower. Cast Animate Land. 3/3? It's a 4/4. Animate Land doesn't remove any colour from the land that it animates, so the Watchtower is still White. >5) Back to the Conclave. Animate it. Opponent casts Massacre. You respond with >Animate Land. They resolve. Opponent casts Vicious Hunger on it. You respond >with Animate Land. It lives, right? No, it dies. It never gets bigger than 1/1. Animate Land sets the "initial values" of the land, and this is calculated before things like counters and normal continuous effects such as that of Massacre. >6) Animate Land a basic land. Cast Extinction naming that land. Does it work? >(Do land creatures have as their creature types their land types?) No. Lands don't get creature types when they're animated (unless they say otherwise). ----- [Mason, asking about animating lands] >So, you can pay 1G to make a treetop village into a 3/3 creature. What >happens if you pay 1G again? It's still a 3/3 creature. Nothing has changed. >If you have a card that says "Do X when a creature >comes into play." do you have to do X each time you pay 1G? No. Nothing's coming into play here, so you'll never get the chance to do X. ----- [Karl Kovaciny, asking about Oracle] >The Oracle text for Diseased Vermin is messed up. It should >say "deals one damage for each infection counter on it" instead >of "deals X damage." Is this the right place to mention that? Yes, it's messed up. Yes, it will be fixed, and yes, this is a good place to mention things like this. I'll tell the Rules Team. ----- [Charles Bienbenue, asking about Crawlspace] >What happen if i have a Crawlspace and i cast a Siren call on my opponent ?? >Whose creature are dead ?? Well, not yours, that's for sure. All but the two creatures that your opponent attacks with will be destroyed. ----- [Jeff Jordan, talking about Jeff Jordan] >I don't want to name-drop, Bob, but did you notice that I was one of >the people Paul mentioned you "could listen to" during his absences? Generally, a list of people who don't get things wrong often, and tend to be well-behaved when I'm not around (although not always so well- behaved when I _am_ around:-). A bit of background: Jeff's not a NetRep or anything, and doesn't work for WotC, but is a rules guru - he's one of the people listed in the back of the Classic Edition Comprehensive rulebook. The other non-WotC people being: Collin Jackson, Michael Phoenix, David Sachs and Donald Vaccarino, plus a load of WotC people and most of the NetReps (Dan Gray, Steven D'Angelo and myself). Note that we've just passed the first birthday of the Classic Edition rules (April 2). >But before he got it, Paul could be just as argumentative as I am. Actually, I seem to remember that I was worse on several occasions. :-) Now, I have to deal more with the practicalities of the rules. So, stuff that might not quite technically work, but everyone "knows" how it works is generally less important than stuff that is really problematic. ----- [Charles Bienvenue, asking two questions] >What happend if a cast a unsummon on a creature a sacrifice for the Fallen Angel ? You CANNOT do this. The creature is already in the graveyard - it was sacrificed as a cost for the Angel's ability. >What happend if a cast a capsize on a nevinyrrals disk when i use is ability ?? If you Capsize it in response, then the Disk will come back to your hand, then its ability will destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments in play. ----- [Ole Kofoed Hansen, asking about Li(i)n Sivvi] >Currently I am reading the Nemesis book, and something made me >wonder. In the book, Lin Sivvi is consistently spelled Liin Sivi. >Anyone have an idea about what caused the diffent spellings? Probably a typo. I can't imagine the card editors being too happy about using the name "Liin" - everyone would assume that it's a mistake. ----- [Russell Henley, asking about Parallax Wave] >Use Parallax Wave to remove some stuff from play. Have another Parallax Wave in >play. Have Opalescence in play. Soul Sculpt the first parallax wave with a >Soul Sculptor:It now has no abilities, right? Correct. >Then remove it from the game with the other parallax wave. Nothing triggers. You can't do this. Not only does it have no abilities, it is now not a creature. The best thing to do would be to Soul Sculpt it in response to its Fading ability, when it has no Fade counters on it. >It will come back with 5 new counters, totally forgetting what happened to it >before. More importantly, it will remove upto five other creatures from the >game *permanently*. That's correct. ----- [Tom Skalski, asking two questions] >1) I have a Trade Routes and Saprazzan Skerry (with only one token) in >play. I tap the Skerry for two mana. I immediately spend one of those >mana to bring it back to my hand before the sacrafice occurs in the >stack. I believed I was able to do this, my opponent said no. You can't do this. The Skerry goes to the graveyard at the same time as its mana ability resolves. You can't both draw mana from the Skerry and return it to your hand with the Trade Routes. >2) Later in the same game my opponent plays a Rishadan Brigand (pay 3 >or sac a perm). I have one Island untapped. I lost the coin toss >during #1 above so was not able to try taking the land back to my hand >at this point to avoid a sac. I think if I could have used Trade Routes >in response to a sacrifice, I still would have had to sac another land >anyway because it targetted me rather than a specific land targetting >itself. That's correct. You can return the Island, but you'll still have to sacrifice a permanent. Paul. - -------------------------------------------------NEW-PHONE-NUMBER-- - - Paul Barclay -- paul@second-hand.demon.co.uk -- Phone: 07939 081819 - - DCI Level 3 judge ---- http://www.second-hand.demon.co.uk/index.htm - - Official MTG-L Network Representative for Wizards of the Coast, Inc -